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Post by JenvyBritts on Nov 13, 2008 22:53:13 GMT -5
How do you determine which dogs are quality enough to be bred?
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Post by kenmoore1 on Nov 18, 2008 22:29:50 GMT -5
Quality breeding stock is in the eye of the beholder. I look for a stud with a nice field trial record with an AFC or FC, OFA, temperment, pedigree, family histories of having been successful in field and show, family health, production records, and preferably a DC or the potential for becoming a DC. He has to appeal to my prejudices that he has the qualities to compliment my bitch. Hopefully, he is within a days drive. Ken Moore KK Brits
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Post by 3britts on Nov 19, 2008 16:09:58 GMT -5
I like to hunt behind any dog that I am considering. I do this as there are many really good dogs that have never competed in a trial, show or competition. Titles are nice, but for me, the proof is in the hunting.
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Post by kenmoore1 on Nov 20, 2008 12:57:48 GMT -5
Yes, I neglected to add "to hunt for real". It seems I never have the time to do that any more.
Ken Moore KK Brittanys
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Post by bigbirdhunter on Nov 22, 2008 15:57:32 GMT -5
hunting ability is the number one thing thing that i look for. Show dogs seem to have less bird desire at least the ones i have seen. My friends all tell me to never buy a show dog or a dog from that kind of breeding because they won't hunt. I talked to a lady who told me that her pups would make great hunters for me but then when i looked at the pedigree there were no field titles in the whole pedigree all just CH or JH. I asked how come she thought they would be good hunters and she said cause they are brittanys and brittanys are dual dogs. She said i just did not understand about the breed. I asked her to show me how her male and female hunted and she said she did not believe in killing beautiful wild birds so she never hunted her dogs due to her belief. She told me she was a member of the American Brittany club and she bred according to the dual concept and that her dogs did not need to prove to that they were good hunters. So i did not buy a dog from her. I think that hunting ability should be the most important thing about breeding. Can they find birds, wild birds not pen raised like they use in field trials but real birds. That seems to me the real test of good dogs
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Post by ohiobrittany on Nov 22, 2008 19:25:04 GMT -5
I agree that JH doesn't mean a dog can hunt. It means the dog has the instinct to hunt. My dog doesn't have alot of FT titles behind him but his sire is now doing more field work and his dam has a SH. Personally some people who show dogs don't have the unlimited funds to field trial or are in an area where they can trial. Alot of times it comes down to the money available to do these events. Redman doesn't have a JH yet but he knows how to find birds. My rescue has no pedigree and sure knows how to hunt as well.
If the breeder doesn't want to kill birds, I do have an issue with that and maybe they are in the wrong breed.
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Post by kninebirddog on Nov 22, 2008 19:37:08 GMT -5
my breeding program consist that Both the Dam and Sire are Bird dogs first ... They pass OFA and do not have any known health issues which could be passed on to the next generation
Show is a good thing but...I am not going to give up the field for the show if the show fits in to the field I will work with that and I do have a Show titled dog from one of my breedings not that other pups couldn't have done it but they went to homes that were not in to showing and most were not even in to competition field events of any kind either.... they are with families the love them and have fun with them doing what they love
I have even sold to homes that do agility ...
and in truth I have said it before competition field show obedience what ever probably make only 10 percent of where all the brittany litters go to 90 percent go to companion homes and for the most part weekend warrior hunters
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